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court with this diverse -- tea. >> the tea party always with a surprise for all of us including politico's ken vogel. great thanks, ken. >> thanks a lot, keith. >> that's september 13th, e 081 since president obama declared victory in afghanistan. 147th day of the deepwater horizon disaster in the gulf. i'm keith olbermann, good night and good luck. now to discuss why lady gaga brought a former west point cadet to the video music awards rather than, say, dylan g. lucas or the go-gos, ladies and dillon or the go-go's -- >> i have my bubble suit coming up later. >> i had the meat shirt but i left it in the office. thanks to you at home for staying with us for the next hour. on tonight's show, as keith said, for the first time ever we shall broach the all-important world-changing subject of lady gaga. lady gaga now makes our news because she has started poaching rachel maddow show guests to take as her dates to awards shows.
you know how people say we couldn't be more excited and they mean that as hyperbole? i don't mean it as hyperbole. we could not be more excited or our health would be at risk. we are very excited. that story is coming up later on this hour. we begin tonight with a new reminder of what is making this such a brilliant year for the news about the country's politics. america, meet karl paladino, seeking office of governor. republican voters have never heard of karl paladino but he is locked in a virtual dead heat as the nomination for governor with a candidate named rick lazio, a person they have turned to again and again in new york. most recently he ran and lost very badly against hillary clinton in the year 2000 senate race this year, possibly by default, the state party tapped mr. lazio to run again, this
time for new york state governor. now for mr. lazio, winning the general election against the probable democratic nominee, andrew cuomo, might prove to be as futile as his race against hillary clinton was. but it was supposed to be a foregone conclusion that rick lazio would at least get the chance to try, that he would at least make it to the general election, that he would at least be the republican nominee. instead, rick lazio might very well lose his chance to probably lose to andrew cuomo. take a look at this. this is how the republican race has trended over the past five months. that top one there, it's not that we don't have a picture of that candidate, it's literally
undecided as in, i don't know, and that's why that candidate is there. back in april, more voters said they were undecided than anything else about this race. as the months have gone by those who have decided essentially decided they would vote for karl paladino instead of the candidate the republican party wants them to vote for, rick lazio, and rick lazio started out with a big lead over paladino. the candidates are virtually tied. with 15% of voters still undecided, nobody really knows what's going to happen tomorrow in the new york state primary, only that karl paladino is the candidate who has been gaining among voters. mr. paladino's biggest virtue is he is not the establishment choice. what he has going for him, in other words, is that the state party is backing the other guy. mr. paladino has fund this had campaign with $10 million of his own money, a multigazillion dollars made in real estate and the largest landlord for state offices in buffalo. despite his denunciation of government spending. so carl paladino is the antiestablishment,
anti-government spending choice unless the spending is government rent checks payable to him. those are essentially his virtues as a candidate. at least you have to hope those are his virtues as candidate, that those are the source of his appeal to new york republicans, because if it's not the that stuff, i'm telling you, this is essentially what else the public knows about carl paladino. wny media.net is the website, they received and published what they call a deluge of e-mail that is mr. paladio sent to a who's who of buffalo-area politicians, media types and hangers on. among them this widely circulated elsewhere and not actually a photo, photo shopped picture of the first lady and president dressed for what the e-mail subject line called a white house ball. the kind of thing surely everyone sends to a long, long list of their friends and business acquaintances.
this one, he sent on titled proof the irish discovered africa. it had as an attachment a video of monkeys doing a little river dance style dancing jig. get it? see they're doing an irish thing so that explains the irish part of the reference but the africa reference is because they're -- yeah. another e-mail included video of an african tribal dance, the headline under which mr. paladino entitled this was obama rehearsals. other videos we cannot show you because they are hard core porn, not even like soft core porn. some of it involving people with animals. it was the email that purports to be the inauguration rehearsal that prompted an angry response from one of the people to whom mr. paladino sent this e-mail. mr. paladino replayed to the complaint, quote, i apologize to you and everyone if that is
offensive. to me it's just humor. i'm not a racist and have never related obama's color to my political distaste for him. i'm not sensitive to ethnic humor. he then uses a series of ethnic slurs and continues, whatever, we hear the humor every day. i think the oversensitivity to black/white is wrong and in itself demeaning. i advocate for the inner city youth's plight. mr. perform aladino arrived on his nonapology apology by saying hey, it's because he works in construction. >> i forwarded e-mails that were -- i'm in the construction industry, okay? i get a lot of this junk sent to me. and i did that. i forwarded e-mails and i've apologized to those who were offended by it. i forwarded it to a select group of friends and generally the people of the state of new york
are disinterested in this topic. >> in other words the people who are going to vote for him, he doesn't have to apologize to them for this stuff and as for the rest who might take offense, if working in construction doesn't make it okay, maybe this will. carl paladino, in case this wasn't clear, says he's human. >> i'm human. i'm human like you and like everybody else. so don't pontiicate to me, okay? >> now about that bestiality video i sent and the african tribal obama inauguration rehearsal, you know, like humans do. as for carl paladino's defense that he advocates for the plight of inner city youth he plans to do that by teaching them basic things like personal hygiene. all part of his initiative that would convert prison dorms into welfare centers. quote, instead of handing out welfare checks, we'll teach people how to earn their check. we'll teach them personal
hygiene. the personal things they don't get when they come from dysfunctional homes. you have to teach them basic things, taking care of themselves, physical fitness. in their dysfunctional environment they never learned these things. on his campaign website mr. paladino calls his send welfare recipients to prison plan the dignity corps and the chronically poor are chronically ignorant and dirty. he likens it to fdr's new deal. so it can't be bad because fdr did it, too. even if you don't care about the insight into carl paladino's mind that is his e-mail history the whole prison camp turned poor farm proposal, this is his actual policy platform. this is what he's running on. this isn't something that he said in an e-mail that included a bestiality video. it isn't something that he riffed on at a campaign event and had to answer for later. this is what he's putting forward as his platform. poor farms.
on the issues section of his campaign website, quote, any able-bodied new yorker is on unemployment or welfare will join the dignity corps. to help them get back to work. you see, the economy didn't make it difficult for you to find work. you did because you're poor, dirty, lazy and dumb. and carl paladino wants to teach you hygiene at a prison. if not criminal, paladino's big vision for getting you back to work might still require you to go to prison where you will learn not to be poor, unemployed or dirty. so the class of 2010 is interesting across the board for this year's election but 2010 may go down in political history as the year in which a guy like this isn't the perennial candidate who runs in at least one election every election cycle. he's actually statistically got a reasonable chance of tomorrow becoming the republican party's nominee for governor of the state of new york. it's a big year. joining us now is the founder
and managing director of wnymedia.net who received the deluge of forwarded e-mails from carl paladino. thanks for coming on the show. >> hi, rachel. thanks for having me. >> let me ask you first, you've been covering carl paladino's candidacy longer than we have at the national level. did i get anything wrong there or do you think i missed anything in terms of points of emphasis of what people should know about him? >> no, you pretty much hit the nail on the head on that one. you know, there's been other controversies as well with the mosque issue in new york city. he at one point called the current governor a drug addict. he called the assembly leader in new york state antichrist. so there's been a whole deluge of news from the paladino campaign. >> am i right, also, that on the mosque issue -- the way that got covered nationally, he essentially dragged rick lazio into a fight over who could be
more against the downtown lower manhattan mosque, but am i right carl paladino at one point said if that community center were built they would put up photos of the 9/11 hijackers on the walls of the community center to lionize them? >> i don't remember that exactly. he did talk about taking the property with him, the domain, and did push rick lazio far to the right than probably rick wanted to go. unfortunately for rick, you can't fight the crazy with more crazy. >> although nobody ever stops trying. that's the beauty of american politics. >> that is true. >> why do you think, mark, this deluge of e-mails was sent to you? obviously i don't expect that you guys were on carl paladino's hard core porn list, someone who was sent that to you. why do you think that was? >> you know, i think when carl first started this campaign he was running a campaign on integrity and values and i think those e-mails show just the opposite of those integrity and values. the e-mails are offensive.
they're racist. they're sexist. they're almost hypocritical of the campaign that the paladino campaign has been trying to run. >> let me just ask your perspective from western new york, we're watching this trend all over the country right now of establishment candidates, candidates who were endorsed by the republican party officially, getting beaten in republican primaries by insurgent candidates like mr. paladino. it is happening all over the country, every race is different but that does seem to be the trend. if paladino beats rick lazio, what does that say to you about the state of the republican party in new york? >> i think we're all in trouble in new york state if carl paladino wins this primary. what carl's done, he's done a good job of getting the angry white voter. let's face it. new york's in trouble. we have a ton of fiscal problems. a ton of problems all around the state not just upstate but down state as well. and he's done a good job of find
ing those angry white voters and basically energizing that base that he has. so i think what it says for new york is -- what it says, it's kind of embarrassing coming from buffalo to have this guy as a national figure at this point talking all crazy. what carl's done, he's done a good job of getting the angry white voter. let's face it. new york's in trouble. we have a ton of fiscal problems. a ton of problems all around the state not just upstate but down state as well. and he's done a good job of find ing those angry white voters and basically energizing that base that he has. so i think what it says for new york is -- what it says, it's kind of embarrassing coming from buffalo to have this guy as a national figure at this point talking all crazy. but i don't think new york -- republicans in new york are in a good position if this guy winds up winning tomorrow. >> mark odien, founder of
wnymedia.net. thanks for your reporting on this candidacy. thanks for your time tonight. >> thanks for having me. still ahead, another standout of the republican class of 2010, christine o'donnell. two years ago the idea that a candidate this extreme would have a real shot at becoming the republican nominee for senate in delaware was unthinkable. we are thinking it now. also, a 100% legit newsworthy topical, socially progressive reason to show this video. i promise. that's coming up. ♪ can't read my poker face it's ellen. hey, mayor white. how you doing? great. come on in. would you like to see our new police department? yeah, all right. this way. and here it is. completely networked. so, anything happening, suz? she's all good.
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the last big primary night is tomorrow night. there are important things going on in new york as we just told you, in delaware, as we're about to tell you, as well as new hampshire, wisconsin,
massachusetts, the district of columbia, all over the place. we will have election results coverage for you live both at 9:00 p.m. eastern and 11:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow. this election year has been one of the most unhinged of my lifetime. tomorrow night we will get a much clearer picture of what's going to happen on november 2nd. live primary coverage tomorrow night 9:00 p.m. and 11:00 p.m. eastern.
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party to lose seats when the economy is bad. so those are the two big head winds that president obama and the democratic party are facing this year. there's not much they can do about the first one, the first midterm curse, except fight hard and pray for more. on the second one on the economy being bad, democrats first and most obviously have to do all they can to bring the economy back. the only thing they can hope for is republicans will do something to make people turn their populous anger against republicans, too, instead of just against the democrats. the only way the bad economy could work to democrats' evaporating in the elections is if republicans, say, decide they want to propose putting $700 billion on the deficit to give $700 per person to each of the millionaires and billionaires to the top 2% richest people in the country. and they say they're willing to hit the rest of the country, the
other 98% of us in the wallet in order to do it. a proposal like that is just about the only way a minority party could compete with democrats for the ire of angry voters in a bad economy. and that is just what republicans have been proposing, saying they won't go along with middle class tax cuts proposed by the president unless rich people get a huge break, too. if you think that sounds like bad politics, the top republican in the house, john boehner, agrees with you apparently. when bob sheer schiefher confronted him about this plan, mr. boehner blinked and took it
back. >> are you saying that no way, no how will you vote for the -- continuing the tax cuts for the folks in the middle class unless it also includes the tax cuts for the people in the upper brackets? in other words, you wouldn't be willing to pass those lower bracket extensions unless you can get the more wealthy people to -- >> if the only option i have is to vote for some of those tax reductions, i'll vote for them. but i've been making the point now for months that we need to extend all the current rates for all americans. if we want to get our economy going again and get jobs in america. >> so you are saying you would vote for the middle class tax cuts if that's all you can get done? >> if that's what we can get done but i think that's bad policy. >> john boehner conceding yesterday that he will vote reluctantly for president obama's proposal which is tax cuts for everybody except the richest people in the country. you think on mr. boehner's part a concession in an election year, a concession that lasted just about exactly 24 hours. today the top republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell, announced on the senate floor that actually, no really, republicans really are going to block tax cuts for middle class
and poor people in order to try to force $700 billion worth of deficit spending on the very richest people in the country. they are really going for it. this election year, they're really doing it. hot damn. joining us now is chris hayes, washington editor of "the nation magazine" and an msnbc contributor. hi, chris. >> hey, rachel. >> did we just have a big republican wobble? is their position clear now? >> i think it is very unclear. part of it has to do with the different political calculations for the different houses. if you're john boehner, all of your members are up for re-election. there is an anti-incumbent fervor and you don't want them to have to vote against tax cuts in an election year. i think mcconnell because there's more procedural control in the senate and because cutting taxes for rich people is
the core existential value of the modern republican party, he will make sure that he will do everything in his power to do that and he's less worried about the political implications because the races where the really competitive tend to be open seats, they tend to be against incumbents. >> so you think we're going to have a split between senate and house republicans where boehner does let people in the house vote for these things but it doesn't matter because the senate blocks it any way, the senate does hold the middle class hostage for rich people. >> see, yes, exactly that. i talked to a republican staffer today and said -- on the house side -- if it comes up just the middle class tax cuts does your member vote for it? he said, sure. that's an easy vote. maybe i'm wrong here but my sense is that if you let the house vote on this first, it actually gives the republicans in the house cover. they get to go ahead and kind of have their cake and eat it, too. they can vote for middle class tax cuts and then let the senate hold it up and make sure it doesn't actually happen and if
you were the republicans i think that's the play that they actually would lick to see happen. >> isn't there ar advantage to democrats at sort of making john boehner putting his money where his mouth is, making him cast this vote against tax relief for super rich people in a way that derides division in the republican party? >> i think -- yes. i think there's an argument for that but there's a responding argument which says you give them a mulligan. you let all these republicans vote for tax cuts then you don't necessarily get it in the senate. we've seen this happen. we saw it on the cap and trade bill, something passes in the house and the senate kills it and so you've allowed -- you've taken away the thing the democrats want to talk about, the last month and a half, two months of this election, is this issue. tax cuts for the rich for tax cuts for the middle class. if you let them water it down by having and giving republicans an opportunity to vote for just tax cuts for the middle class, you take that away as a political issue or you at least cloud the sale yens of it. >> if you let the house vote first. >> exactly. that's the key. and that's why there was some
reporting today on talking points memo and other places saying the house wasn't going to move ahead with the vote. i think that's part of the strategic calculation here. i talked to a staffer for a democrat who has been in the house for a while and face as tough challenger. we don't want to vote on anything. our challenger isn't in the house. any vote we take is going to kill us. all we want to do is put our head down and get through the last two months. there's some of that intense, defensive crouch, risk aversion that's also driving. >> let me ask you about whether or not the democrats are really going to press ahead. frank rich obviously very influential wrote how fdr in 1936 was able to turn populist anger against the economy into political advantage even though they were the party in power by saying that republicans were the party of the financial bad guys, the people who were getting rich
while everyone else suffered and he welcomed their hatred. is there any hope, any legs to this as a potential strategy for the democrats left? >> well, there are legs although i would say that gdp growth in 1936 was actually quite positive. the country was actually growing. it had this horrible trough and part of the reason roosevelt was so popular at that point, gdp growth was actually quite remarkable in that year. it then went back down. there was a double dip. so, look, 90% of this fate is sealed. the economy is terrible. people are ticked off. there's a huge enthusiasm gap. the margins do matter and the margins at this point five seats, six seats, ten seats in the house are the difference between speaker pelosi and speaker boehner and we all remember what a republican house looked like in the late '90s and they were relatively sane compared to now, right? so the message is going to matter at the margins and the margins really do matter even though most of this is being driven by structural factors. >> chris hayes, washington editor for "the nation" magazine and an msnbc contributor making an even for you unusual amount of sense this evening, chris. >> well, thank you.
so, rachel, i want to get this clear, i stay here for the bad romance duet with lady gaga? we do this by satellite? >> do you have your bubble suit? >> i do. >> good. stand by. thanks, chris. >> thanks, rachel. so i got a really nice e-mail this weekend from someone who had been a guest on our show recently, an e-mail said thanks for having me on the show. nice to see you. i enjoyed the segment. oh, by the way i'm on my way to the mtv video awards. i thought, that's really nice and also, yeah, right. opened the paper this morning, turns out this former guest of "the rachel maddow show" did go to the music awards as lady gaga's date. i know. details ahead. ♪
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don't ask/don't tell is 17 years old, and for all of its 17-year history people have been fight to go repeal it. last week advocates of repeal celebrated a big victory as a federal judge in california ruled that don't ask/don't tell was unconstitutional. today another case was in federal court. another case that is raising don't ask/don't tell opponents' hopes even higher. it is a case that could force the military to a higher standard of proof before discharging someone for being gay. the military would not be able to assert in a blanket way that homosexuality in general is damaging to morale and unit cohesion, they'd instead have to prove that each person they were kicking out under don't ask/don't tell was individually a threat to his or her
particularly unit's morale and cohesion. good luck with that. that approach would be called the standard based on the case of an air force major named margaret whit. her federal trial takes place in washington state. that's what's going on on the legal side. there's a lot of interesting movement on the political side. the house of representatives, of course, passed a defense authorization bill back in may that included repeal of don't ask/don't tell. the senate has yet to take it up. senate democrats may finally be ready to push ahead with repeal. the reason why they may finally be ready, run your soul over a cheese grater. democrats had put repealing don't ask/don't tell on the back burner in order to accommodate the political schedule of senator john mccain, specifically democrats reportedly decided to wait on
repeal for a while until john mccain's primary challenge from j.d. hayworth was over. they didn't want to make john mccain take a stand on the issue lest that be uncomfortable in his race against an anti-gay opponent. now the only moderately is free to be mavericky again, free to start enjoying press coverage that credits him with political principles, the washington blade reports today that the senate is finally going to prove. the defense authorization bill including the repeal of don't ask/don't tell will apparently be brought up on the senate floor next week. so cancel your vacation and upgrade your cable package. next week should be a big deal on don't ask/don't tell. that's what's going on on two fronts, the legal front and the political front.
but there's actually a third front. turning offshore and gathering force, threatening to blow don't ask/don't tell over with the hurricane force winds of super awesome celebrity glamour. that's nothing to do with the ninth circuit court of appeals and definitely has nothing to do with john mccain. it's lady gaga. yeah, that's lady gaga last night at mtv's video music awards. her chosen dates for walking the red carpet, four members of the united states military, all of them gay, all of whom either discharged under don't ask/don't tell or who resigned because of the policy. who is that guy walking with her? we had him on the show last week. see, same guy. this is as close to glamour as "the rachel maddow show" will ever get. lady gaga's other dates, to gaga's left is former army sergeant first class stacy vasquez there. all the way to the right former air force staff sergeant david hall. and who is that? that's katherine miller, the cadet sergeant who resigned last month because of the onerous of
serving under don't ask, don't tell. again, the glamour. now we know the diagram that includes "the rachel maddow show" and lady gaga intersects at one point, for kicking out people for no reason other than they're openly gay. katherine miller must have had a really big few weeks since we last spoke. she joins us for the interview when we get back. my nasal allergies are ruining our camping trip. i know who works differently than many other allergy medications. hoo? omnaris. [ men ] omnaris -- to the nose! [ man ] did you know nasal symptoms like congestion
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six weeks ago katherine miller was a cadet at west point. she ranked ninth in her class of more than 1,000. last month she decided to quit and transfer out of west point because she believed serving under don't ask, don't tell was compromising her integrity. then last night she went to the m it tv video music awards as a guest of lady gaga. you know, as you do. joining us now for the interview
is katherine miller who has had a remarkable month or so. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> how did you end up going to the vmas with lady gaga? >> all right. so i was sponsored by the service members legal defense to attend the concert. she was performing in washington, d.c., and she wanted to meet service members that had been discharged or had resigns because of policy. as well as the other service. sort of seems like you've had a big month. you submitted your resignation, hadn't been through the process, were technically a cadet. what's happened, what sort of changes have you been through? >> well, on the 13th of august 2010 i was officially discharged from the military. since then i've been doing a media, trying to get my story out there and on the 26th of august i moved in to yale university dorm rooms and i started class september 1st. the rest is history, i suppose. >> do people at yale know your story and the reason you left west point? >> absolutely they are familiar with it.
>> did they have any trouble? >> they've been overwhelmingly supportive. it's a great environment to be part of. >> do you feel regretful, happy about the decision that you made or are you just overwhelmed? >> again, it's ambivalence for me. i know i left something that was a huge part of me and that i love. i know it was the right decision and i'm in the right place to make a difference now. >> i know that you were here when i was introducing this segment doing sort of an update a moment ago on what's happening on don't ask, don't tell. there's a lot of movement in the courts, the log cabin republican case, the marjorie whit case that's happening right now and congress, for whatever reason, they may be ready to move in the senate. when you think about your role as an advocate on this issue, do you feel optimistic that things are really going to change or do you feel this is something that is just continually getting kicked down the road? >> i think in the past few months we've seen unprecedented progress in the repeal for this so undoubtedly we have the momentum to get this law finally repealed. i'm absolutely optimistic but at
the same time i know that it's an act of diligence that's going to finally get this law appealed. >> what do you mean an act of diligence? >> i know right now it wasn't until today the senate finally scheduled a vote to get the vote on the agenda and it's going to take this continued attention to the issue to point out the fact that, hey, don't ask, don't tell is still affecting people today, that people are still getting kicked out of the military based solely on their sexual orientation and that's just wrong. i think we lose sight of the fact this policy is affecting people every day. by bringing awareness to this and making it a big deal then we're finally going to be able to get it repealed. >> let me ask you about the choices that you have made in the images from the vma, i'm struck that you're in your west point uniform. as were other members of the military who were with you, i don't know about the policy implications that has. can you tell me about the decision to wear a uniform and whether or not that's a controversial issue for you? >> certainly.
so according to title 10, section 772, i believe, if you were discharged honorably and you joined the military in a time of war, you are entitled to wear your uniform, entitled to that honor even though you're discharged and not part of the military anymore. so that was my rationale and the fact i still feel pride in wearing it so i was going to wear it to the vmas. but, more importantly, at the same time i want to start by saying i'm a member of an underground network of gay/lesbian/bi-sexual active duty soldiers and a couple months ago i was part of that underground and i didn't have a voice. and since then i've been put into a position where i'm able to vocalize what the voiceless can't say and by wearing my uniform to the vmas make visible what was previously invisible, these soldiers. so although it was a controversial decision, i feel like i'm doing the right thing. >> and in terms of this being an
underground network, do you mean there's some -- there is an organized group of people who are not out in the military obviously because you can't be, but who know each other to be gay or do you mean the informal friendships and relationships that occur among people who have to operate in a closet environment? >> it's a formal organization where we're able to discuss issues pertaining to don't ask, don't tell and how we can become active in fighting against this. so outserve is specifically for active duty members and people that don't have a voice in this issue right now. >> if the policy is repealed either in the courts or politically, are you still thinking that you would get back into the army if you could? >> absolutely. military service is something that i'm absolutely going to perform sometime in my lifetime. this commitment to public service is something that's near and dear to me and i will serve in the military in some capacity
whether it's by returning to west point if it occurs in a timely manner. but i will serve my country in one capacity or another. >> as long as the country catches up to you. >> absolutely. >> which is much harder than it ought to be. former west point cadet and lady gaga escort, katherine miller, thank you so much for your bravery and service. thank you. all right. coming up on "countdown" keith is joined by david plouffe. you want to hear david plouffe talk with keith. the families of supreme court justices like the families of politicians are generally off limits for discussion in the news unless they insert themselves into the nation's politics and, boy, howdy. has the wife of clarence thomas qualified on those grounds. how justice thomas' spouse spends her weekends, why it is important and what she wears on her head. i want to give my 5 employees health insurance,
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and as far as we can tell, we don't think there is any precedent for it in american history. we don't think there is any precedent for the spouse of a sitting supreme court justice being engaged in political activism to the extent that the wife of associate justice clarence thomas is doing right now and of which we have tape. in general the family member of a supreme court justice would not be somebody whose activities would be considered inherently newsworthy. the same goes, at least as far as i'm concerned, for politicians' families unless they get themselves involved in politics. but i don't know of anybody else who has ever held the job title supreme court justice while their spouse has been a very public national activist like this. so noted without further comment just so you know it's true, clarence thomas' wife. >> hello, patriots. it is a pleasure to be with you. what an honor. if you have a crown on, i feel like i'm next to your heart and
soul. thank you so much. i am so -- you guys are can i just say thank you for coming to this wet and wicked city. despite the lies from the other side, despite the intimidation, you are america's political first responders, and we thank you for coming out. you are so powerful and so mighty that george had to spend millions and millions of dollars to try to counter the real grassroots movement you are building in the last 20 months. i've been living and working in the washington, d.c. area for 30 years, and i'm here to tell you a couple of things that they are not going to tell you. first of all, is they're scared to death of you. they're scared and they're
hiding from you. you know what's cool? we don't have to ride around boston at midnight on horses, do we? we can stay in the comfort of our home, find each other, cause a little bit of trouble, get our voices heard, and get better and better. we're going to save this country. let me tell you, there's a war going on, and washington wants to make it look real complicated, real technical. it's not so complicated. it's not so technical. we have got to stop this, you guys. this is not just a game. this is the biggest thing that's ever happened. let me say every day citizens have stayed, have stuck their feet in the ground and planted a flag in the ground and stopped tyranny before. and every generation has its time. i guess this is our time, because we're all feeling pulled to the front lines. >> thank you so much.
can i just say, if something happens in washington, my husband and i are heading to texas. what we're doing at libertycentral.org is equipping citizen leaders to lobby for liberty. and so my husband and i do really different things by the way. there was a tornado over our wedding when we got married. god knew we were both troublemakers coming together. so i do policy. he does law. and i don't understand that world and i'm glad god didn't tell me to do that, because i don't know how to do that. thank you for what you do. from the front lines i'm telling you we need your help. we're at risk of losing the country. we have 61 days to put the brakes on this train that's heading for the cliff. they thought we weren't going to wake up in time but they were wrong. join me. >> they are scared to death of you. cheers. there's a war going on against tyranny.
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conservative movement hating the republican establishment. what that means in delaware senate primary is a competition among republicans to see who counts as the establishment and who counts as the real insurgent conservatives. former alaska governor sarah palin, south carolina senator jim demint and tea party express organization all in one corner promoting a tea party identified candidate. in the other corner, the republican party in state is unified around a nine-term republican congressman, a man named mike cassel. here is a good way to see that. here is the delaware republican party website and here is mike castle's website. they are mirror images of each other. the woman challenging is named christine o'donnell. the state party filed a complaint with the federal election commission about her accusing the tea party express of illegally coordinating with the o'donnell campaign. the chairman of the delaware
republican party has been vociferous in his attacks on o'donnell saying voters have been laughing about her claims for the last two weeks. in response to christine o'donnell rather flagrantly ducking the press in delaware the state republican chairman says, i suppose they are probably keeping her hid away so she doesn't have to answer questions. last week that same state party chairman received a death threat for supporting mike castle over christine o'donnell. it was an e-mail that said the chairman, quote, deserved a bullet in the head for supporting mike castle. the chairman's family has since moved out of their house. in delaware it is a closed primary tomorrow which means only registered republicans can vote. only about an estimated 30,000 people are expected to vote in the republican primary, which basically means my high school graduating class could swing that election. because despite all predictions and prognostications to the contrary, this race is turning out to be very close. last month 60% of delaware republicans said they had a favorable opinion of mike
castle. since then a nearly 20-point drop-off. most scary of all to the republican party in delaware is the same new poll shows christine o'donnell with a three-point lead over mike castle. judging by poll numbers and the expected turnout it's not inconceivable christine o'donnell will win the republican senate primary in delaware tomorrow. then the state party, what, embraces her and helps her win and gets out the vote for their standard bearer christine o'donnell? really? if not, and that seems more likely than not, what's the delaware republican party for after this? what's its function? with outside candidates beating republicans supported by the party, running against the gop, it's almost like the organized

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